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RPD
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| pinla wrote: | | RPD- IIRC you went to the hotel to check out cameras, I don't recall what you found in the parking lot. Also wonder about cameras at neighboring lots. |
No cameras in the HI parking lot.
There is a nearby convenience store and McDonald's.
No cameras at the convenience store....did not look at McDonald's.
This is a shot of the actual restaurant... 5 a.m. - 11 p.m. with Drive-thru open 24 hours.
The Hampton is behind , directly adjacent from the rear/side parking lot.
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pinla
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| RPD wrote: | | pinla wrote: | | RPD- IIRC you went to the hotel to check out cameras, I don't recall what you found in the parking lot. Also wonder about cameras at neighboring lots. |
No cameras in the HI parking lot.
There is a nearby convenience store and McDonald's.
No cameras at the convenience store....did not look at McDonald's. |
Thanks RPD. Cameras everywhere and not where we need 'em. Dang. Still, if someone saw the car pull away that helps the puzzle. |
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indie
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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TP it is all fine and dandy that there is an explanation for everything but if Jason DOES NOT take the stand how will it all be explained to the jury?
Are there studies that could be presented by travel experts on shower taking after 2 1/2 hour long driving trips or door propping? Will the defense put Jason's family on the stand to testify this is his normal behavior? It will not be believable.
RPD, also I believe Jason's room was NOT on the 1st floor right? If it was on the 2nd or 3rd floor it is even less likely one would do the door prop thing.
Gojo, next time you are here can you tell us when the reservation was made for the Hampton Inn? I am sure LE already knows because that sort of stuff is on record. I just thought it would help us understand how he went about setting up the meeting.
a. Day of stay
b. 2 to 3 days before the stay
c. 1 week prior to the stay/meeting |
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gojo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: Re: mere |
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| RPD wrote: | | jezme wrote: | | Scout wrote: | | dingbat wrote: | Sorry for the confusion. The question was Jane's...."Also, where did any of those dingbats ever get get the name Mere?" True Prophet answered her question.
My post was to remind Jane of your rule about names. Booty boy and other nics for Jason are not appropriate here. She'll have to live with it. |
I have no problem with dropping all nicknames for individuals on both sides of the case -- victim's family and suspect's family. In fact, it would be my preference that everyone be called by name or initials.
BTW, Booty Boy is a really stupid nickname. Anyone who would behave in a manner that would earn him such a nickname is an idiot. |
Booty Bo is really a stupid nickname - stupid is as stupid does ... was it a well deserved nic? |
Shake, Shake, Shake----- Shake Your Booty
Jason "Booty Boy" Young.
Always the most obnoxious one left standing. |
When this clown can post whatever he wants
with no response, he concludes it gives him
license to continue with even more obnoxious
nonsense.
So it is with all bullies. When the moderator fails
to correct the bully, others are the board are
obligated to do so by showing their displeasure.
I reckon I'm the only one offended.
To demonstrate how silly he is, and to show that
not everyone is intimidated by his bully tactics,
I will answer in kind.
Shake, Shake, Shake----- Shake Your Booty
Mere "Booty girl" Fisher
Always the most obnoxious one left standing.
See how silly that is? Sorry about that, Meredith.
==Gojo |
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RPD
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, didn't mean to offend you with the Booty Boy facts.
I guess this one actually rings more true 
Jason "Cold Blooded Killer" Young.
The most guilty left standing. |
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MassComm
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: |
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All the name calling should be called off, so that everyone can take the high ground. This way we can quit with these distractions.
Let's just call him Jason or JY, call Michelle Michelle or MY, and call Meredith Meredith or MF.
More theories on what made Jason change clothes and leave his hotel at midnight, with no record of him re-entering that night would be more useful.
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Scout
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Re: mere |
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| gojo wrote: | -snipped-
When the moderator fails
to correct the bully, others are the board are
obligated to do so by showing their displeasure.
I reckon I'm the only one offended.
-snipped-
==Gojo |
That's an interesting criticism. Y'know, recently some guy tried to entice me to invent characters to post outrageous statements on the boards just to see what reaction they would get. What would you have done in my place, gojo? |
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pinla
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| MassComm wrote: | All the name calling should be called off, so that everyone can take the high ground. This way we can quit with these distractions.
Let's just call him Jason or JY, call Michelle Michelle or MY, and call Meredith Meredith or MF.
More theories on what made Jason change clothes and leave his hotel at midnight, with no record of him re-entering that night would be more useful. |
OK MassComm, I like this.
Things he'd have had access to without going outdoors.
Ice, snacks, drinks, shampoo etc,
Things he'd have to go outdoors to retrieve-items possibly avail in his car.
Office supplies, music, maps, planner, laptop..
This second list is harder as you could argue he'd have taken them in when he arrived and also that he wouldn't have had say office supplies in his car. But I suppose there is a chance (and I doubt it) that he was prepping a presentation and wanted some unusual color paper etc? Does anyone use physical presentations or would he have used the computer only? Would any 24 hour store have such materials? What else would he have had to drive away to retrieve? |
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gojo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| RPD wrote: | Sorry, didn't mean to offend you with the Booty Boy facts.
I guess this one actually rings more true
Jason "Cold Blooded Killer" Young.
The most guilty left standing. |
Thanks, MassComm. Others need to
challenge this bully. Let me try again
to show how silly he is (sorry about this,
Meredith):
Mere "Cold Blooded Killer" Fisher.
The most guilty left standing.[/quote]
==Gojo |
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MassComm
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| pinla wrote: |
OK MassComm, I like this.
Things he'd have had access to without going outdoors.
Ice, snacks, drinks, shampoo etc,
Things he'd have to go outdoors to retrieve-items possibly avail in his car.
Office supplies, music, maps, planner, laptop..
This second list is harder as you could argue he'd have taken them in when he arrived and also that he wouldn't have had say office supplies in his car. But I suppose there is a chance (and I doubt it) that he was prepping a presentation and wanted some unusual color paper etc? Does anyone use physical presentations or would he have used the computer only? Would any 24 hour store have such materials? What else would he have had to drive away to retrieve? |
It's not suspicious, in and of itself, about going out to the car if you forgot something. Although with an early morning meeting a couple of hours away from his hotel, if he was a good salesman, he needed to be in bed by that time and not worrying about much else.
What is suspicious is the idea that there is no record of him coming right back. Gojo even tries to preempt this discussion with the fanciful idea of "hating" keys and unsafely propping open several doors, including his freaking door room, while he left the building.
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gojo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Re: mere |
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| Scout wrote: | | gojo wrote: | -snipped-
When the moderator fails
to correct the bully, others are the board are
obligated to do so by showing their displeasure.
I reckon I'm the only one offended.
-snipped-
==Gojo |
That's an interesting criticism. Y'know, recently some guy tried to entice me to invent characters to post outrageous statements on the boards just to see what reaction they would get. What would you have done in my place, gojo? |
I reckon you went for it without waiting
for my advice. "Supplies?"
==Gojo |
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gojo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| MassComm wrote: | | pinla wrote: |
OK MassComm, I like this.
Things he'd have had access to without going outdoors.
Ice, snacks, drinks, shampoo etc,
Things he'd have to go outdoors to retrieve-items possibly avail in his car.
Office supplies, music, maps, planner, laptop..
This second list is harder as you could argue he'd have taken them in when he arrived and also that he wouldn't have had say office supplies in his car. But I suppose there is a chance (and I doubt it) that he was prepping a presentation and wanted some unusual color paper etc? Does anyone use physical presentations or would he have used the computer only? Would any 24 hour store have such materials? What else would he have had to drive away to retrieve? |
It's not suspicious, in and of itself, about going out to the car if you forgot something. Although with an early morning meeting a couple of hours away from his hotel, if he was a good salesman, he needed to be in bed by that time and not worrying about much else.
What is suspicious is the idea that there is no record of him coming right back. Gojo even tries to preempt this discussion with the fanciful idea of "hating" keys and unsafely propping open several doors, including his freaking door room, while he left the building. |
Again, this discussion shows how stupid it is
to attempt to answer a "what if" question: what if
he did an Elvis and left the building?
He didn't, so far as we know. It was stupid
to attempt to show why he might have left the building.
Stupid is as stupid does.
==Gojo |
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Spring
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| pinla wrote: | | MassComm wrote: | All the name calling should be called off, so that everyone can take the high ground. This way we can quit with these distractions.
Let's just call him Jason or JY, call Michelle Michelle or MY, and call Meredith Meredith or MF.
More theories on what made Jason change clothes and leave his hotel at midnight, with no record of him re-entering that night would be more useful. |
OK MassComm, I like this.
Things he'd have had access to without going outdoors.
Ice, snacks, drinks, shampoo etc,
Things he'd have to go outdoors to retrieve-items possibly avail in his car.
Office supplies, music, maps, planner, laptop..
This second list is harder as you could argue he'd have taken them in when he arrived and also that he wouldn't have had say office supplies in his car. But I suppose there is a chance (and I doubt it) that he was prepping a presentation and wanted some unusual color paper etc? Does anyone use physical presentations or would he have used the computer only? Would any 24 hour store have such materials? What else would he have had to drive away to retrieve? |
We can deduce that he didn't go get a map since he was late to the meeting 8) You know, the one he drove half way to so he wouldn't get too tired. But he got showered and left his hotel? Wasn't he too tired? |
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Spring
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Re: mere |
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| Scout wrote: |
That's an interesting criticism. Y'know, recently some guy tried to entice me to invent characters to post outrageous statements on the boards just to see what reaction they would get. What would you have done in my place, gojo? |
Sounds like the master bully. |
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pinla
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| gojo wrote: | | MassComm wrote: | | pinla wrote: |
OK MassComm, I like this.
Things he'd have had access to without going outdoors.
Ice, snacks, drinks, shampoo etc,
Things he'd have to go outdoors to retrieve-items possibly avail in his car.
Office supplies, music, maps, planner, laptop..
This second list is harder as you could argue he'd have taken them in when he arrived and also that he wouldn't have had say office supplies in his car. But I suppose there is a chance (and I doubt it) that he was prepping a presentation and wanted some unusual color paper etc? Does anyone use physical presentations or would he have used the computer only? Would any 24 hour store have such materials? What else would he have had to drive away to retrieve? |
It's not suspicious, in and of itself, about going out to the car if you forgot something. Although with an early morning meeting a couple of hours away from his hotel, if he was a good salesman, he needed to be in bed by that time and not worrying about much else.
What is suspicious is the idea that there is no record of him coming right back. Gojo even tries to preempt this discussion with the fanciful idea of "hating" keys and unsafely propping open several doors, including his freaking door room, while he left the building. |
Again, this discussion shows how stupid it is
to attempt to answer a "what if" question: what if
he did an Elvis and left the building?
He didn't, so far as we know. It was stupid
to attempt to show why he might have left the building.
Stupid is as stupid does.
==Gojo |
It's not stupid Gojo, it's thinking and discussing on a message board. Nobody said this is for sure what he was up to outdoors, and if you notice some of the possibilities could actually be helpful to your defense of Jason. As he isn't talking, it is necessary to contemplate instead.
I totally agree MassComm about the safety issue of this door propping. Wonder what rotation may exist that someone of staff would check for propped doors, if ever checked. I |
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Scout
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: Re: mere |
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| gojo wrote: | | Scout wrote: | | gojo wrote: | -snipped-
When the moderator fails
to correct the bully, others are the board are
obligated to do so by showing their displeasure.
I reckon I'm the only one offended.
-snipped-
==Gojo |
That's an interesting criticism. Y'know, recently some guy tried to entice me to invent characters to post outrageous statements on the boards just to see what reaction they would get. What would you have done in my place, gojo? |
I reckon you went for it without waiting
for my advice. "Supplies?"
==Gojo |
You reckon wrong, gojo. Your disciples in that regard are over at IS living several of their nine lives all at one time.
"Supplies", yes. You say Jason can explain everything. How will he explain this? |
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Scout
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| gojo wrote: | | MassComm wrote: | | pinla wrote: |
OK MassComm, I like this.
Things he'd have had access to without going outdoors.
Ice, snacks, drinks, shampoo etc,
Things he'd have to go outdoors to retrieve-items possibly avail in his car.
Office supplies, music, maps, planner, laptop..
This second list is harder as you could argue he'd have taken them in when he arrived and also that he wouldn't have had say office supplies in his car. But I suppose there is a chance (and I doubt it) that he was prepping a presentation and wanted some unusual color paper etc? Does anyone use physical presentations or would he have used the computer only? Would any 24 hour store have such materials? What else would he have had to drive away to retrieve? |
It's not suspicious, in and of itself, about going out to the car if you forgot something. Although with an early morning meeting a couple of hours away from his hotel, if he was a good salesman, he needed to be in bed by that time and not worrying about much else.
What is suspicious is the idea that there is no record of him coming right back. Gojo even tries to preempt this discussion with the fanciful idea of "hating" keys and unsafely propping open several doors, including his freaking door room, while he left the building. |
Again, this discussion shows how stupid it is
to attempt to answer a "what if" question: what if
he did an Elvis and left the building?
He didn't, so far as we know. It was stupid
to attempt to show why he might have left the building.
Stupid is as stupid does.
==Gojo |
I have to agree. It's stupid to explain his leaving the hotel as a trip out to the car to retrieve something he'd forgotten, when the opposite is true.
He carried something out. |
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Spring
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| What supplies did Jason need for his trip home besides a radar detector? |
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pinla
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Scout
I have to agree. It's stupid to explain his leaving the hotel as a trip out to the car to retrieve something he'd forgotten, when the opposite is true.
He carried something out.[/quote]
OK Scout-
So a few choices, he either carried out something he'd brought in or maybe everything he'd brought in. OR he left in a rage and carried out something he grabbed from the hotel. Many lists of potential murder weapons avail in the home have been made, any list of potential murder weapons that would have been easy to grab from a hotel? |
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Tia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| pinla wrote: | [quote="Scout
I have to agree. It's stupid to explain his leaving the hotel as a trip out to the car to retrieve something he'd forgotten, when the opposite is true.
He carried something out. |
OK Scout-
So a few choices, he either carried out something he'd brought in or maybe everything he'd brought in. OR he left in a rage and carried out something he grabbed from the hotel. Many lists of potential murder weapons avail in the home have been made, any list of potential murder weapons that would have been easy to grab from a hotel?[/quote]
Interesting thought. I agree that he left in a rage. I really believe she was leaving him. |
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Tia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| I hope Det. Spivey is reading over at IS today. The Fisher's should have NO trouble with a libel suit against those idiots. Poor Hiller. They had her for breakfast and she was just defending her friend. They are like rabid dogs craving fresh blood. |
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MassComm
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Wonder what was so important to carry back out to the car around midnight? And to have no record of re-entry?
Scout, was this on the inside hotel video showing him in different clothes, carrying something back out at midnight? Or a witness? Or do you know for sure?
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MassComm
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| MassComm wrote: | Wonder what was so important to carry back out to the car around midnight? And to have no record of re-entry?
Scout, was this on the inside hotel video showing him in different clothes, carrying something back out at midnight? Or a witness? Or do you know for sure? Or can you not tell us?
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Tia
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| MassComm wrote: | Wonder what was so important to carry back out to the car around midnight? And to have no record of re-entry?
Scout, was this on the inside hotel video showing him in different clothes, carrying something back out at midnight? Or a witness? Or do you know for sure?
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MassComm
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Wouldn't he need his luggage to get ready for the meeting in the morning? (that's why you bring luggage, afterall, to change and have personal supplies for the next day when you wake up.)
Also, why no re-entry? |
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